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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:18 am Post subject: One trailer & boat light Thread !! Amber light clarifica
Lets try to just keep one thread on the trailer lights so we can find the information. If you have a source for lights or Ideas lets post them here so we dont have to dig around looking. Below is the clarification I received from Rep. Williams office a few minutes ago....Mark
Representative Williams appreciated your support and the support he received from all those in the boating and tourism industry. Below is the answer to your question that I received from our legal staff:
There should be two amber lights on each, the boat and the trailer, at the widest points. These points would be only for a boat trailer over 102 inches. So, if the trailer is 102 inches or less, only two lights are needed for the widest points on the boat, if the boat exceeds 102 inches. If the boat and trailer are greater than 102 inches, you will need to have operable lamps on both.Let me know if you have any more questions. _________________
" TinaLouise "
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 6:07 am Post subject: Amber lights
Can I get you to clarify with a specific question. My boat is 102 inches wide. My trailer guidposts are 114 inches wide. I understand I need amber lights on my guideposts since they are greater than 102 inches. Do I need amber lights on my boat if it does not exceed 102 inches?
Also, I've seen where boaters world has an all around dome light that fits on top of the guideposts. However, it is amber on the back half and red on the front half. Since it is not amber all the way around does it fail the requirements?
My guide post measure about 115" and the widest point of my boat is 109" so I assume I need to install lights on both the boat and the guidepost. Guidepost lights, no problem, but anyone have any advice on installing lights on the side of my boat and where can I find these amber and red lights. _________________ "Simply The Best"
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My guide post measure about 115" and the widest point of my boat is 109" so I assume I need to install lights on both the boat and the guidepost. Guidepost lights, no problem, but anyone have any advice on installing lights on the side of my boat and where can I find these amber and red lights.
Why not mount some lights to a piece of PVC and stick them in a rod holder. You can cut a "gimbal" in the PVC so that it sits in there and doesn't turn and you can make the PVC angled so that the light sits at the edge of the boat. Connect the lights to your battery via alligator clips and go towing (or use a 12V cig. lighter adapter). Take the lights out of your rod holder when you get where you're going. Easy on/easy off.
Great idea if your boat is the wides part of the rig. But for most of us it's the guide post if they get that picky.
There ya go Bob build a portable gimble light thingy, make it adjustable so it will hang out at the same distance as the guide post. Or make a light kit for your downriggers and let them earn their way as you motor down the hwy.
Why not just do both?? Put the lights in your rod holders and in your guide posts. Your trailer should already have amber and red marker lights at the widest point. That way there's no question with the HP and all of this "My boat is so many inches wide and I don't know what I need" is solved.
If you have guide posts wire a set of lights with the wires running down inside them and tie it in to an existing wire. What does it cost? $20 max for each set of lights? And it's an easy job, given that all of your trailer lights already work. (If they don't, it's a $100+ ticket---I know because I also got this ticket in the fall at the same time the trooper wrote me an Overweight ticket for my tags. He "let me slide" on the overwidth ticket.)
My point is simply put the lights on the boat AND the guide posts if you're over 102" just to eliminate any confusion if they get picky.
Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 5:39 am Post subject: A question for the small boaters...
All this hype about trailer regs for the larger guys has got me thinking about the smaller boats. Why is it that a large vessel being trailered is any different than a johnboat? I mean a trailer is a trailer and should they not be lit the same? I am stunned at the lack of operational lights on trailers of any kind in this state. I can't count how many times some ass in a small boat is rolling down the road in front of someone and decides to stop in the Scotchman for gas, slams on the breaks and almost causes a wreck due to the fact that there is no warning from trailer lights.
Laws need to changed AND/OR enforced if they are already in place. _________________ Make something idiot proof, and they build a better idiot
Joined: Jan 23, 2004 Posts: 311 Location: Wanchese, NC
Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 9:04 am Post subject: Re: A question for the small boaters...
tunatamer4 wrote:
All this hype about trailer regs for the larger guys has got me thinking about the smaller boats. Why is it that a large vessel being trailered is any different than a johnboat? I mean a trailer is a trailer and should they not be lit the same? I am stunned at the lack of operational lights on trailers of any kind in this state. I can't count how many times some ass in a small boat is rolling down the road in front of someone and decides to stop in the Scotchman for gas, slams on the breaks and almost causes a wreck due to the fact that there is no warning from trailer lights.
Laws need to changed AND/OR enforced if they are already in place.
I agree, My trailer is lit up like a christmas tree!! I dont want anyone hitting my rig. Cost to much and to much to repair or replace. Better to have more lights than not enough....Mark _________________
" TinaLouise "
I do not have guide post, but those that do, they are part of the trailer. I mounted amber submersible 3/4"X3" lights on the outer edge of my fenders. I wired it right into the hot wire that already ran down each side of my trailer for the other lights. I also thought of making a pvc pipe in a rod holder with a bracket to extend out to the edge of my boat to mount the amber light on. I figured on wires to my jump box in the boat while trailering.
Joined: Jan 23, 2004 Posts: 311 Location: Wanchese, NC
Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 11:14 am Post subject:
Hey everyone here are a few pics of the lights. Nothing fancy but they dont need to be. Picked up the LED lights at Tractor Supply. 1"PVC and fittings for the front lights you can get anywhere.
For the rear lights I just made a bracket out of some scrap 1"aluminum flat stock and ran the wires down trough the upright pipe to the wiring harness. LED lights were $8.95ea replacement lamps $2.50
I have three rod holders towards the front of my boat one at the widest point, I just took some 1"PVC and PVC fittings then made two inserts and mounted the lights on them.
Then made a "Y" harness with a two pole plug to plug into the wiring harness at the front of the boat. You can notch the PVC pipe on the bottom to fit into the rod holder pin so the lights wont spin.
A Few pics from last night when I went to pick up the boat.
I think we're gonna see a different "clarification" when DMV actually gets involved instead of some staffer. Remember, we're dealing with trailer rig lighting for road use. Think about what's important when you encounter a vehicle towing at night, to me it's overall width and I could care less about what's in between.
- that's why it says ".. [i]a boat or boat trailer with an outside width of less than 120 inches may be towed without a permit[i]."
The way I interpret the statute: if the boat or boat trailer is over 102", then an operable amber light must be located on each side so as to mark the widest lateral dimensions of the entire rig.
- recalling the "outside width" thing, above, why would they now be concerned with lighting any part that's less the outside width?
If the boat is the widest part of the rig, then at least one light has to be on each side of the boat at the widest points. If the trailer is the widest part, then at least one light has to be on each side of the trailer at the widest points. But not both, even if both exceed 102"! Why would they care about the dimensions of the boat if less than the width of the trailer?
That's my story and how I'll have mine rig deployed - an amber light on each side at the widest dimension of the rig. We'll see what DMV has to say when they get around to it ...
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