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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 1:45 pm    Post subject: Live Baiting??? Reply with quote

I believe I asked this last year but can't remember. When trolling with live baits and get a fish on, what do you do with the other lines when you reel them in? I've thought about putting them in the livewell but then I'll have a tangled mess, taking them off the hook and throwing them in the well but this would be hard on the bait, leave them hanging in the water, or toss them and use fresh baits. The only thing about tossing and using fresh baits seems like you would have to have alot of bait on board. I'm going to try live bait next weekend if the weather is good.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I have a crew on board I'll keep the baits in the water as long as things are manageable. Usually leaving the baits out will result in other strikes. Always get the down rigger up because sure as hell the fish will get wrapped in the line to the ball.

I fish by myself a lot so that means fishing 3 lines - one long, one short and one down on the downrigger. If I get another fish on when fighting the first I just leave that rod in the rod holder and tighten the drag slightly up from strike. I'll point the boat down wind then put the engine in neutral, that usually keeps everyting tight. I think you'll find that leaving the lines out will get you more fish.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We reel our others in, leaving them boatside . . . but if the fish on is going nuts around the boat we will bring the others in and leave them hanging in the livewell. We don't put them all the way in the livewell, just a little ways in & shut the lid so they can move around on top but not freely swim around & get tangled.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tommy it sounds like you need to go to Back-Lash's school of live bait fishing Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tommy

In Tournaments we always clear the other lines immediately, fun fishing just depends on which line gets hit and how hard the fish is running to how fast we clear the rest.

Most of the time when we reel them up we just toss them if we have enough bait - they are usually stressed and hard to keep alive anyway.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

REHolden wrote:
Tommy

In Tournaments we always clear the other lines immediately, fun fishing just depends on which line gets hit and how hard the fish is running to how fast we clear the rest.

Most of the time when we reel them up we just toss them if we have enough bait - they are usually stressed and hard to keep alive anyway.


fishingfishingfishingfishing^ What he said with 1 exception .... I like to leave 1 bait in the water at all times ............
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always try to keep the top water lines in if I can. Often moving two gunwale rods to the sideways T-top rocket launchers will keep at least two baits and rods out of my way. Sometimes I can't keep them in, but I will wait until the last minute to pull them out.

My downrigger balls almost always come up. But before reeling in the ball, I pop the downrigger bait from the clip and let the bait swim up to the surface through the entire water column while I reel in the ball. This will occasionally result in a strike as the bait moves towards the surface. <-- I learned this trick on this site, and I use it now regularly.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 12:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We put 1 back in the well so we have a bait ready to go back in the water when we boat the fish all the others we toss or put back in the well after we remove them carefully from the rig
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

guys i wouldnt have believed if i hadnt seen it myself, but popping the line out of the downrigger has netted my biggest fish. a 28#r at the swansboro tourney, a 27#r at the us open. so these guys are speaking the truth.....
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

how do you pop the downrigger?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you dont pop the downrigger and get that ball out of the water fast at first sign it is a good fish that downrigger will cause you to lose it cut it off it will
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tim the way you pop a down rigger .. you tighten down on your rod tip almost to the water hold your drag real tight then jerk the rod tip high it should pop the line loose from the downrigger release ,, you should also run your release as loose as you can that will keep your bait in the release
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just curiosity.....why is it most king fisherman use a downrigger-ball vs planer-rods with a salty Question Question

(my guess is speed but I've heart about slowtrollin with planers)
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mannysmate wrote:
Just curiosity.....why is it most king fisherman use a downrigger-ball vs planer-rods with a salty Question Question

(my guess is speed but I've heart about slowtrollin with planers)


Tournament wise most people think the stelthier thier rigging the better chance of sneaking up on that big prize winner. And more lively the bait the more it attracks that bigun.

The real logic to me is best control of where you want your bait in the water column. Go back a re-read what Back-Lash said about marking bait on your fishfinder. If you pull your bait at 15 - 25' in the water column and all the bait is at 65' where is the most logical place that you will get a strike? I have seen days that no kings have hit top water but ate up the deeper baits and vise versa. The bottom line could very well be both stelth and depth control.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mannysmate wrote:
Just curiosity.....why is it most king fisherman use a downrigger-ball vs planer-rods with a salty Question Question

(my guess is speed but I've heart about slowtrollin with planers)



You cant pull live bait on a planer and if you want a big smart king live bait pulled as slow as you can is the only way to get them those big girls are smart and lazy and dont want to chase down their meals and expend more energy catching the meal then they will consume
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