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doggin4deer
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 Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 9:14 pm Post subject: pogies |
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Anyone seen any around southport lately.Needin to know for sat.
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klbbigshow
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| Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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| picked some up yesterday in the river near snows cut ,some of the biggest ive seen ,but were hard to get becuse they refused to flip |
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Capt_Don
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| Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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| klbb - if you'll tell, were they in the river north of snows cut? thanks |
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klbbigshow
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| Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 11:31 pm Post subject: |
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if you were coming from southport, come up the main shipping
channel passed snows cut, there are two islands immediately north of snow cut to youre right ,I cought them in 8 ft of water next to the second island on the shipping channel side . i did not see anything on the backside of the islands ......... hope that makes sense |
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Subcultures10
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that video makes me sick
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| Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 1:59 pm Post subject: |
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guys i might be wrong, but it seems that last yr the pogies were here pretty thick by now as i hear there not as plentifull on the beach as previous yrs.
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Curmudgeon
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Used to be acres of pogies along the southeast coast, too, until the pogie boats and spotter planes got thru with 'em. Looks as if the New Jersey fleet is well on the way to destroying what's left. One positive to fuel prices is more and more marginal fishery boats going under (pun intended) ...  |
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tunatamer4
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| Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 7:29 am Post subject: |
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| Curmudgeon wrote: | | Used to be acres of pogies along the southeast coast, too, until the pogie boats and spotter planes got thru with 'em. Looks as if the New Jersey fleet is well on the way to destroying what's left. One positive to fuel prices is more and more marginal fishery boats going under (pun intended) ... |
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Fish stocks tend to "cycle" and this may just be a "down" year for the pogies. Sure the net boats may have had some sort of impact on the fishery but at the same time, natural predation can be playing a part.
I remember the back in the day when you couldn't buy a striped bass on the northeast coast because it was said the crabbers cleaned all the crabs out of Chesapeake Bay. Well when that fishery bounced back, the bass were blamed for the crab population being down, which may be somewhat true since a striper loves a softy.
Also in the late nineties there were a couple of years that the Spanish were so thick here that we on the charter boats would bet who'd limit out and be back at the dock first. It was nothing for us to catch 80 fish and be back at the dock in 2-3 hours. As fast as you could get spoons in the water, they were on.
If you have a large biomass of fish eating another biomass, one will explode while the other declines, and those that are lost will not spawn. Therefore, decreasing the food supply for future stocks, in turn sustaining less predators until the food source returns to normal.
If we are looking for someone to blame, try Al Quaida, or however the heck you spell it.
It's not always only the commercial guys
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robby
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[quote="tunatamer4"] | Curmudgeon wrote: | | Used to be acres of pogies along the southeast coast, too, until the pogie boats and spotter planes got thru with 'em. Looks as if the New Jersey fleet is well on the way to destroying what's left. One positive to fuel prices is more and more marginal fishery boats going under (pun intended) ... |
Guys-
Fish stocks tend to "cycle" and this may just be a "down" year for the pogies. Sure the net boats may have had some sort of impact on the fishery but at the same time, natural predation can be playing a part.
I remember the back in the day when you couldn't buy a striped bass on the northeast coast because it was said the crabbers cleaned all the crabs out of Chesapeake Bay. Well when that fishery bounced back, the bass were blamed for the crab population being down, which may be somewhat true since a striper loves a softy.
Also in the late nineties there were a couple of years that the Spanish were so thick here that we on the charter boats would bet who'd limit out and be back at the dock first. It was nothing for us to catch 80 fish and be back at the dock in 2-3 hours. As fast as you could get spoons in the water, they were on.
If you have a large biomass of fish eating another biomass, one will explode while the other declines, and those that are lost will not spawn. Therefore, decreasing the food supply for future stocks, in turn sustaining less predators until the food source returns to normal.
If we are looking for someone to blame, try Al Quaida, or however the heck you spell it.
It's not always only the commercial guys[/quote
i was just wondering if anybody else had noticed the scatteredneess(excuse me for a lack of a better word) of the bait this year?
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SteveThePirate
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| Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 12:16 pm Post subject: |
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I catch tons off my dock! i caught 73 from 4 casts with the castnet...
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robby
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| SteveThePirate wrote: | | I catch tons off my dock! i caught 73 from 4 casts with the castnet... |
where is your dock? you might want to start selling all these pogies. as what i am hearing from other local fisherman the pogies are alittle scarce right now out on the beaches. they can find them in the waterway, but they dont hold up well in the ocean trolling.
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imaheelsfan
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| Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 12:22 pm Post subject: |
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| They were near Ocean Crest Pier early Friday morning and more just east of the lighthouse closer to lunch time. |
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tunatamer4
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| Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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| robby wrote: | | SteveThePirate wrote: | | I catch tons off my dock! i caught 73 from 4 casts with the castnet... |
where is your dock? you might want to start selling all these pogies. as what i am hearing from other local fisherman the pogies are alittle scarce right now out on the beaches. they can find them in the waterway, but they dont hold up well in the ocean trolling. |
What size are you talking about Steve? King size or flounder size? I floated a six foot net the other day at a buddies dock in CB, but they were all about three inches.
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