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oldmonitor 2nd Mate


Joined: Feb 12, 2005 Posts: 40 Location: myrtle beach SC
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Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 3:47 am Post subject: Un-wanted help for our Inlets |
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I wish to introduce myself to you all. My name is Rob Graham, I live in Myrtle Beach SC I have wife and a 3 year old son. I keep my 23 foot Pro-line center console up in the Southport Marina. I am sure many of you have seen me at the tower or trolling back and fourth between steeples and Blackjack hole. I also run a small seafood restaurant here in Myrtle Beach, SC so you could say that I am really tied into what happens here on our coastline.
As a new member to fryingpantower.com I was taken aback to a link I found back too fryingpantower.com. Not so much the website but what was been said on this website.
On February 17 2005 I was looking over the southern kingfish association homepage and was drawn to the ANNOUNCEMENTS column area.
North Carolina to Close Inlets! Get Informed and Get Involved Click Here http://www.fishska.com/tournamenttrail/2005news/ncclosing.asp
(I said to my self great a little more help)
A few minutes of reading I felt myself angered by what was being said. Most notably by this paragraph
What’s interesting to me is that we can afford to fight wars overseas and give billions in foreign aid but we can’t find the money to keep our inlets open. Thousands of your tax paying constituents work hard all week, just to have the luxury of fishing the coast line on the weekend. Their one passion in life, and you are allowing this travesty to happen, or at least I haven’t seen anything to change that opinion.
I look forward to your reply, your diligent efforts to correct this situation, and to herald those efforts to the sport fishing community.
Respectfully Yours,
Jack Holmes
Managing Partner,
Southern Kingfish Association.
Who is this joker Jack Holmes Managing Partner of the Southern Kingfish Association?
Dose he have any idea of how many fine men and women from and stationed in Carolinans are oversea rite now Fighting for are freedom. Which re-supply to our forces dose he want too have cut to save an Inlet?
As for the foreign aid, which part of the 950 million dollars would he take out of the tsunami relief package to save an inlet? How many fellow fishermen would he be willing to hand over to starvation?
I find it Funny how he seems to worry so-much about the area but looks more like he has concern for the thirteen tournaments that will be dramatically impacted. Would that be his greedy self-interest at work?
I know others from Fryingpantower.com will feel as I do. We don’t want the help from a man that would Care so much for his own self interest over so-many others who need are help right now.
The inlets are important to me but I know working together we can find funds in other places like a saltwater fishing license or something along those lines to keep the dredging going all on are own.
Thank you for your time sincerely
Rob Graham (OldMonitor1@hotmail.com )
I have copied the whole page as it appears on the Southern Kingfish Association website
http://www.fishska.com/tournamenttrail/2005news/ncclosing.asp
Breaking News
North Carolina to Close Coastal Inlets!
The following letter was sent to the N.C. Legislators on behalf of the SKA. We recommend every member in N.C. go to fryingpantower.com for information, contact names, and more.
February 2, 2005
To the United States Senators, House of Representatives from the State of North Carolina and the North Carolina Legislators,
Mrs. Elizabeth Dole
Mr. Richard Burr
Mr. Mike McIntyre
Mr. Walter Jones
Mr. Robin Hayes
Mr. Thomas E. Wright
Mr. Bonner Stiller
Mr. Daniel McComas
Ms. Carolyn Justice
Mr. William Wainwright
Mr. George Cleveland
Ms. Jean Preston
Mr. W. Robert Grady
Mr. Russell E. Tucker
Mr. R.C. Soles
Ms. Julia Boseman
Mr. A.B. Swindell
Mr. Scott Thomas
Mr. Charles W. Albertson
Mr. Marc Basnight
Mr. Harry Brown
My name is Jack Holmes and I am the Managing Partner of the largest saltwater tournament organization in the world, the Southern Kingfish Association. We sanction over twenty charity driven tournaments in your great state with hundreds of our North Carolina members participating. We also encourage many, many, of our members to come to North Carolina and fish these events through the pages of Angler Magazine and our popular web site. Last year we filmed two of these events for national airing on Fox Sports Net.
It has come to my attention, unfortunately at the twelfth hour, that the Corp of Engineers will abandon dredging efforts in four inlets in your state and the U.S. Coast Guard will begin removing the navigation markers from these inlets because of a lack of funding. They include Carolina Beach Inlet, Lockwood Folly, New Topsail, and the New River Inlet.
My first question to you would be, who did the socio-economic study of the impact that these closings would have on the coastal communities they serve? I would be very interested to not only read it but share it with our readership. Second, why has there been little or no press on this subject? Was this a last minute decision by the Corp to get more money?
These closures will dramatically impact over thirteen tournaments, all charity driven, effect marinas, waterfront restaurants, hotels, the charter boat industry, bait and tackleshops, well you certainly know your state better than I do, so you get the message. I don’t want to alarm you but the devastation to the boat building community, especially in North Carolina will have far reaching consequences. I’m sure I don’t have to remind you the impact the luxury tax imposed on the boating industry had back in the nineties. You’re not going to sell coastal boats when you eliminate ocean access.
What’s interesting to me is that we can afford to fight wars overseas and give billions in foreign aid but we can’t find the money to keep our inlets open. Thousands of your tax paying constituents work hard all week, just to have the luxury of fishing the coast line on the weekend. Their one passion in life, and you are allowing this travesty to happen, or at least I haven’t seen anything to change that opinion.
I look forward to your reply, your diligent efforts to correct this situation, and to herald those efforts to the sport fishing community.
Respectfully Yours,
Jack Holmes
Managing Partner,
Southern Kingfish Association. |
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Capt_Dave Site Admin


Joined: Mar 29, 2004 Posts: 3844 Location: Cape Fear, NC
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Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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OM,
I see your point,,,but I also see Jacks and it is a valid point. I dod not expect our Troops to do without a thing....they better NOT do without....but at the same time what is the difference between 54 trillion and 54.000001 trillion. (I do not KNOW what the number is I just know it is so large....funding our inlets is not enough to matter)
The American people foot the bill for thousands of overseas programs....and more than one of those programs are for people that HATE the US.
I think Jack's point is that with Amercia's footing the bill for all these programs and troops and everything else.....he deserves an access to release some of the stress that comes with footing that bill. Most of the people that us these inlet's...ALL OF THEM...are hard working people that BUST THEIR ASS everyday to be able to afford offshore fishing.
Just my .02
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Liquid_Addiction MOD

Joined: Jan 23, 2004 Posts: 724 Location: Wilson
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Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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OM,
I agree with you when it comes to our troops being overseas and not having to do with out. I never want to see our guys not having the best to do there job with. I fish out of NR witch is at Camp Lejune. I am a member of the Onslow Bay Saltwater Fishing Club which holds our service people very highly in our hearts. We even sponser a "Take A Troop Fishing" day were we donate our time and money to show these men and women our appreciation.
I on the other hand see Jacks point. I as a hard working indivisual would rather see our money stay here at home to help out our needy cause instead of trying to bail out other third world countries. As a member of OBSFC I see the benefits of SKA driven tournaments first hand. The Onslow Bay Open has been giving all proceeds to an Eckerd Aternative Youth Camp called Camp Emahenwu. This money helps to fund all aspects of trying to get the kids lives back together. Many of them have never had a true "home life".
Yes, I for one would rather be able to have the money that I pay in taxes go to the use of sopporting home bound issues instead of worrying about others abroad.This may sound as a greedy statement but I guess that is why we are all Americans.
We need all the help that we can get on this issue and personally I will not turn down anyone that wants to help. People have different reasons for wanting our inlets open but basically we are all working together to achieve the same goal. "SAVE OUR INLETS--TOGETHER WE WILL BE HEARD" _________________ Steve Brantley
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dunzie 2nd Mate


Joined: Feb 13, 2005 Posts: 31 Location: Fayetteville NC
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Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 9:59 pm Post subject: SAVE OUR INLETS |
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I AGREE WITH ALL OF THE POINTS, BUT RESTORING FREEDOM AND DEMOCRACY TO THE OPPRESSED IS MUCH MORE IMPORTANT THAN FISHING, FOOTBALL, OR ANY OTHER HOBBY. I ALSO THINK IT SHOULD NOT BE LEFT UP TO THE FEDERAL GOVERMENT TO FOOT THE BILL FOR DREDGING AND SAVING OUR INLETS. ALOT MORE CAN BE DONE ON THE LOCAL LEVELS TO INCREASE FUNDING FOR OUR INLETS. BUT SINCE EASLEY IS IN STILL IN OFFICE HE WILL CONTINUE TO WASTE OUR MONEY ON STUPID AND WASTEFUL PROJECTS. EMERALD ISLE IS PAYING ALOT OF MONEY TO RESTORE THEIR INLET, ACTUALLY MOVING IT. JUST AN IDEA FOR YOU TO PONDER ON, IF THE STATE DID QUIT LEASING DRIVER ED. CARS AND HANDED DOWN SURPLUS CARS IT WOULD SAVE NC ABOUT 1.3 MILLON DOLLARS ANNUALLY AND IF THE STATE WOULD STOP ALLOWING NON-ESSENTIAL EMPLOYEES TO DRIVE OUR STATE CARS AND TRUCKS HOME WE WOULD SAVE 1.2 MILLION JUST IN GAS AND LIABILTY. THEIR IS 2.5 MILLION DOLLARS WE JUS SAVED. IT IS TIME THT WE PUT MORE PRESSURE ON LOCAL SENATE MEMBERS. REMEBER TO KEEP EVERYBODY IN THEIR PRAYERS AND KEEP FISHING. BE SAFE
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Capt_Don Ol'Salt


Joined: Nov 18, 2003 Posts: 279 Location: Cape Fear
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Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 11:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Well stated David. We do have to start somewhere tho, and the Fed. has primarily funded the inlet dredgings in the past, and once its stopped, no way to get it back. At this point my opinion is to do what we're doing, meaning attempting to get the Fed. to reinstate inlet funding. Its a drop in the bucket compared to the big picture. I agree with you that most, if not all of our gov't funded programs have significant waste, and also that they spend 100% of what they are granted, needed or not, so as to get at least the same next year. Yes, all those programs should be examined, and yes, the Fed. is funding so many things that they don't really know what they are paying out. Locally, I've seen and read where gov't funded organizations were doing ridiculous things that in my opinion was simply a total waste of $$,,,yet they ask for more each year and often get it. As I understand it, one million/inlet should keep them open and safe for the entire year. Thats four dredgings per year, and the cost per inlet is about what one nice coastal home sells for these days. |
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oldmonitor 2nd Mate


Joined: Feb 12, 2005 Posts: 40 Location: myrtle beach SC
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Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 11:31 pm Post subject: |
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I thank everyone for their replies to my post
But I think we are getting off the point of my post. Finding funding for the inlets is very important to me but I don’t wish to have my name brought into use with others who seem to have a different political or financial agenda in play. I was all about Jacks support message until he put an unneeded paragraph into it. I am quite sure his political and social beliefs are not shared by all the members of southern kingfish association.
This is about contacting are state and federal representatives and saying that the Inlets are important to the financial and social well being of the community.
Not saying I have a problem with the foreign polices of the government and we need funds too dredge are too inlets.
This is a sure way to get nothing
If you have any intrest in foreign aid here is a good basic over-all read
( you must have a PDF reader)
http://fpc.state.gov/documents/organization/31987.pdf |
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Skipper Deck Hand


Joined: Feb 21, 2005 Posts: 5 Location: Oak Ridge, NC/Surf City
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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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I would not dare take anything away from our armed forces with the good job they are doing. Just one point of interest. President Bush's upcoming budget proposal will include $2.5 million for a feasaibility study to deepen a channel in Texas. $2.5 million would probabely fund dredging for at least 3 of our inlets for the year. This Texas project doesn't even exist yet so why would they take funding from existing projects and divert it to do a study of new projects. I'll tell you why. TEXAS
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