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Rough day on the Rough&Ready 08/19/07

 
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 9:51 am    Post subject: Rough day on the Rough&Ready 08/19/07 Reply with quote

After ck'ing the offshore buoy's for 2hrs yesterday-morning, Joe decided to stay in-shore and see if we could find some gags.
Headed out late (8am) and made our first drops 12m out in 60+ft .
They were not cooperating very well.
It seemed like Fred and Wilma grouper were having some fun in their holes while Pebbles and Bambam were playing hide and seek.

Don't ask me where SEDAR is getting their research-info from and are trying to convince us that the gag's are becoming an endangered species.
Out off 40+ we reeled up ONLY 8 keepers!! the rest all juveniles.
(something or somebody seemed to reproduce pretty darn well)

Oh well, can't always fill the boxes and this taught me what a difference it can make in a 30nm stretch

OHH, I tried waterskiing but don't ask me were the rollin swells were. Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They need to stop getting there data behind the desk.
And from the wrong time of the year.
Also need to get divers input.
Groupers are not going to be on the same places at the
same time every year.They have tails and swim.
They also said there is a 40% mortality rate on throwbacks.
Over 90% of my throwbacks live.The only time they die is when
the hook hits a vital organ or blood supply.
I think the recreational limit & size limits imposed over the past
years are making a big differance.The commercial pressure
isn't near what it use to be.I've heard about some new regs that
are going to go in a completely different direction then the old
rules were going.Being both commercial & recreational fishing
vessel.
I'm sure the recreational fishing is going to get the shaft.
As a commercial fisherman I'm not going to be happy with
new rules that undermind the direction we were headed in.
I have plenty of thoughts on this topic and will continue to express
them.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what can we ( as the general public ) do about this topic as it stands now i can go out and get only 2 gags per trip thats ok 2 good gags is worth the gas expence that i will spend, if they reduce it to only 1 it will not be worth the trip unless u load your boat with extra people we need people like joe and other honest comm. guys to go bat for us and give their input on the data, they are out there day in and day out
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 6:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Rough day on the Rough&Ready 08/19/07 Reply with quote

mannysmate wrote:
After ck'ing the offshore buoy's for 2hrs yesterday-morning, Joe decided to stay in-shore and see if we could find some gags.
Headed out late (8am) and made our first drops 12m out in 60+ft .
They were not cooperating very well.
It seemed like Fred and Wilma grouper were having some fun in their holes while Pebbles and Bambam were playing hide and seek.

Don't ask me where SEDAR is getting their research-info from and are trying to convince us that the gag's are becoming an endangered species.
Out off 40+ we reeled up ONLY 8 keepers!! the rest all juveniles.
(something or somebody seemed to reproduce pretty darn well)

Oh well, can't always fill the boxes and this taught me what a difference it can make in a 30nm stretch

OHH, I tried waterskiing but don't ask me were the rollin swells were. Laughing




Hey don't complain Jan, I went with Joe the day before and only kept 5 keepers.

And I drove all night from Hilton head with no sleep to take the same butt kickin'.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Hey don't complain Jan, I went with Joe the day before and only kept 5 keepers."


NO COMPLAINTS HERE!!

Just a honest report, and I know the feeling; drivin all nite and get your ass kicked................. but hey, as soon land is out off sight we are in our element.

Lookin forward to be fishing (catching Laughing ) with ya Capt. one day.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In 2 days fishing inshore we threw back over 80 groupers in the
17 to 24 inch range back into the ocean.One floated wawa
But The rest lived Very Happy.
Some of there bellys were so full, I don't know why they were still eating.
Overall the fish looked very healthy & well feed.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i know that fish we caught didn't seem like they had eaten anything i checked the gut of all the fish and didn't find anything except what i had fed them, and what kind of new regulations are you talking about?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://fishingthecarolinacoast.com/uploads/gag_210.pdf
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

With that data the rec fisherman doesn't stand a chance.

Look at it, Made my jaw drop. toilot
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Capt Joe, I read the whole darn thing earlier today, and I'm still kinda clueless. I know I can pm or call ya, but I think this should be open to the public, and us "newbies" and "rookies" would like to know the impact of all this to us recreational guys.
Is there a way you can put all of this in plain English and what the impact might be to the recreational fisherman?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 11:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what it sounds like to me is that (on the gags) us rec fishermen would only be allowed 1 gag 24" or greater ( or 2 of 36" or greater would work) a 50% decrease in the allowable recreational catch and a 25% decrease in the commercial catch.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are they going to change the regs on red grouper? Going fishing for one gag is pretty pathetic. I wonder how much that meat would cost per pound? May as well start skipping the inshore ledges.
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